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Women's complaints and men's complaints sometimes amount to the same thing  

IVFalternative 53M
244 posts
1/28/2019 3:02 am
Women's complaints and men's complaints sometimes amount to the same thing

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IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
1/28/2019 3:05 am

I've seen people talk about not making nasty comments to people on the blogs, but IMO some attitudes are best responded to with contempt, mockery and derision.

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TicklePlease 56F  
13851 posts
1/28/2019 3:19 am

Hell... society's been trying to convince women the first approach is the correct one for generations! Seems to be easier than the second.


IVFalternative replies on 1/28/2019 3:27 am:
Easier to do in the short term. Living with a lifetime of sexual failure as a result must be quite difficult

redmustang91 64M
9760 posts
1/28/2019 3:40 am

Complaining does not work as a strategy. You have to give to get. What you give depends on what the sex partner wants.


IVFalternative replies on 1/28/2019 3:52 am:
Complaining not only doesn't work, it is counterproductive.

Naughty_HotWife1 39M/37F

1/28/2019 3:41 am

true


IVFalternative replies on 1/28/2019 3:53 am:
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Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
1/28/2019 4:04 am

So men and women complain...so what ?

Your suggestions were:
1) Attempt to convince women to fuck men they don't want and be ok with getting no pleasure out of it.

2) Men can work on improving their game and performance until they can get what they want.


Neither of those are necessary... and you really don't have to do either one.

If the person is on here, and in your vicinity, you'll get laid. You just need a good meeting and a sexual attraction to each other.

You don't need to convince a woman to fuck you... she either wants to fuck, or she doesn't.

You don't need to work on your "Performance".... if a man is turning sex into a "Performance"... he is a dumb ass idiot.
He is focusing on putting on a show, more than just having a good time.

As for the grumpy bitches who say some large percentage of men haven't been worth it? The woman, herself, is probably the reason so many encounters were duds.


IVFalternative replies on 1/28/2019 4:20 am:
A guy who isn't getting laid who refuses to improve his game is a guy who is committed to failure. I see no reason not to strive for excellence. If you are content with being sub-par you'll just have to live with the results of that decision, it's hardly an attitude that should be encouraged though.

s2ndegree 65M
9800 posts
1/28/2019 7:49 am

It's interesting how a mere frustrating encounter turns into
out and out disdain.
First of all does that 80% represent two,three or 20 guys?
OF course we'll never hear their stories on what happened
like whether or not she really liked any number of them
who had no intention of getting together again.Was her
assessment made after not one single one of them called her
like they promised they would?

As for the second scenario.Northern Ireland? Home of shipyards and random car bombings. He too is most likely making that statement after only one or two dates.It really sounds like a generalisation he's making rather than what he experienced.

A lot of this attitude comes from the immense gender imbalance and the huge diversity in what people are looking for.Even though this is a woman's
guy emporium they still have to deal with 50 to 100 guys hitting on one
woman.They just happen to be playing a lottery at this point.

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IVFalternative replies on 1/28/2019 8:29 am:
Yes people report their experiences subjectively and make generalizations.

porterpiper1 57F
3755 posts
1/28/2019 8:54 am

If there is a connection the man might get lucky, men and women will never never understand each other because both approach to sex is different, some only think about their pleasure and damn if she is satisfied, others do care about how he make a women feel and want her to get pleasure out of the encounter, Some man just don't understand their approach to women on here. some think because they message a woman she will have sex with him, or possible sex later that day or night, They loose sight of reality, not every woman is turn on by seeing a penis, or your being direct with what you want, " saying you want to fuck, I want to lick your pussy, I can go for hours, before they say hi or hello". Because this is a adult site and it has many meaning , it doesn't mean you will have sex with someone you message, On or off this site your approach is how most women on here see a man's character. And being rude, cruel, or nasty to her because she say no or not interest, move on . because most will blog about the message and do they think any woman would want to be with them?


IVFalternative replies on 1/28/2019 12:18 pm:
Interesting observations.

traveljunkie13 56F
11089 posts
1/28/2019 6:57 pm

Hmmm...I've recently updated my profile to something to that effect although I didn't give percentages lol. I've actually had more satisfying encounters with men on this site than not. But...there have been one or two that just didn't measure up to what I need sexually. I think men who make good lovers tend to be the ones who go with option #2.


IVFalternative replies on 1/28/2019 10:48 pm:
It seems likely that men who make an effort to learn will do better than men who don't.

Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
1/29/2019 3:09 am

IVFalternative replies on 1/28/2019 4:20 am:
A guy who isn't getting laid who refuses to improve his game is a guy who is committed to failure. I see no reason not to strive for excellence. If you are content with being sub-par you'll just have to live with the results of that decision, it's hardly an attitude that should be encouraged though.


A guy who isn't getting laid .... If he's not getting laid.... then he needs to figure out why he isn't. Don't worry about "Performance" at all... a man should not be performing....Anyway, usually he isn't getting laid due to his attitude, or his lack of something...... maybe lack of self confidence,,, 'Game' , as you say, could use work....

Ia guy who refuses to improve his game is a guy who is committed to failure..... That's right... but I was talking about your mention of "Performance"....... don't worry about that......Yes, work on ones "Game".

I see no reason not to strive for excellence.... In your game? Yes... In bed with the chick? No... just relax..... You're not suppose to be putting on a show.....just be in the moment.. .and see where it goes.

Anyway... men usually complain because he is too shy, wants to be nice, ..this turns the woman off, she doesn't get a visceral buzz off him behaving like her girlfriend.....and he complains. Likely he listened to much to his mom and not enough to dad.


IVFalternative replies on 1/29/2019 3:31 am:
So you prefer to lack sexual skill

Intriguing. However it is too late for me to take this approach. I'll have to leave the sexual mediocrity to you, you're welcome to it.

Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
1/29/2019 2:55 pm

IVFalternative replies on 1/29/2019 3:31 am:
So you prefer to lack sexual skill Intriguing. However it is too late for me to take this approach. I'll have to leave the sexual mediocrity to you, you're welcome to it.


So you prefer to lack sexual skill .... No. Not what I said....I said, there is not reason to make it a "Performance". Relax and just do her..Every woman's body is going to be [react] a little bit different...You should know this by your age. .....Anyway, if a man can't get laid, then he doesn't know his abilities yet, nor how to make them better. Although what you may qualify as "Better" for one woman, may not qualify as "Better" for another.

However it is too late for me to take this approach. .... No it isn't too late. Just stop pretending you're "Performing" for the woman, and just relax. She certainly isn't thinking about how to "Perform" for you, other than maybe what kind of lingerie to put on.....However, women who dawn lingerie [that's a performance], are probably women who don't look all that great naked, or the relationship is fizzling, and not sizzling as it once did.

I'll have to leave the sexual mediocrity to you, you're welcome to it...... Didn't say anything about being mediocre , either.

You seem really intent on hamming up sex with a chick..... just relax.


IVFalternative replies on 1/29/2019 4:29 pm:
The word performance is not just about putting on a show, it is "the action or process of performing a task or function". I'm using standard English, not your peculiar narrow definition. So if you don't improve your sexual performance you lack sexual skill. That is what you said. If it's not what you meant you should learn to express yourself clearly.

Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
1/29/2019 8:47 pm

IVFalternative replies on 1/29/2019 4:29 pm:
The word performance is not just about putting on a show, it is "the action or process of performing a task or function". I'm using standard English, not your peculiar narrow definition. So if you don't improve your sexual performance you lack sexual skill. That is what you said. If it's not what you meant you should learn to express yourself clearly.


The word performance is not just about putting on a show, it is "the action or process of performing a task or function". ... You were not expressing yourself clearly, then.

I'm using standard English,... Apparently not very well. The concept of , "To perform", is not your best choice to convey your idea.

His "Skills/ Ability" [knowledge] to pleasure a woman is not going to improve, if he can't get laid many times over by different women.

For that matter... women [younger or older] are not always proficient in their abilities at sex, either. So they , too, will not develop their skills and abilities if they are only with some small number of men.


IVFalternative replies on 1/29/2019 9:13 pm:
The problem lies with your lack of comprehension, not my expression.

As with any field of expertise, skill comes from theory and practice. If anyone isn't getting the opportunity to practice they should learn theory so that when they do get the opportunity to practice it isn't wasted.

missthee 58F  
4511 posts
2/11/2019 9:13 am

There's something to be said about people who genuinely lack basic comprehension, or people who selectively lose basic comprehension skills the moment they log on this site.

Most of the time when I have to turn down an overture, it's because the other person has not bothered to read the effing manual - my profile, to be exact.

Nine times out of ten it's because the age range and the location specifications I have clearly stated on my profile are being ignored.


IVFalternative replies on 2/12/2019 2:47 pm:
My feeling is that someone who ignores your preferences online won't care much what you want in a meeting either, and may not bother with things like getting consent.

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