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REINCARNATION, YES, OR NO?  

stardust81937 87M
4345 posts
9/3/2016 1:50 am
REINCARNATION, YES, OR NO?

I don't know how many of you believe we live our lives, die, then return again.... Reincarnation.

I'm pretty agnostic about the idea. It makes sense in a way that we come back again and again to get things right. But looking at the whole idea from the "resistance to the salesman" point of view, I say, "Go sell your vacuum cleaner to someone else!"

When you delve seriously into Reincarnation, it gets pretty complicated. There's a lot of things about New Souls and Old Souls that baffle me.

I almost can understand the part about NEW souls; after all the world has a lot more people on it now--7 billion plus, of us--then it did in say, the time when Jesus was supposed to have walked on water. New Souls are somehow created from the essence of what? Quantum physics? String Theory? Dark matter? Left over photons from the Big Bang Theory?

Somewhere beyond my ability to understand-- NEW SOULS keep popping from the wombs of women, and go for their first position at the reincarnation bat. Presumably, if a New Soul hits a home run of goodness and holy perfection--which few doe--they've graduated from this earthly "damnation" and go on into paradise.

We humans are supposed to be able to pick if we'll get squeezed from a woman's innards as a boy baby or a sweet baby girl. That is, we're supposed to be able to choose while our souls are in the "other" realm what sex we'll be here on Earth when we're born.

From the standpoint of a man who's very happy being a man, I wonder if picking out our sex was possible-- if we really COULD choose our sex prior to birth-- if there would be any EVEN distribution of men to women.

Women on this Earthly plane seem to me to get most of the crap in life, so how many new souls would choose to be born a girl?

When you look at all the various places on Earth, and all the religions bumping and humping into one another in this world, it's pretty obvious to everyone that women are treated like real pieces of crap in a good proportion of places.

I've written many times on these posts, that I believe men are innately like dogs, ready to screw an appealing piece of 3/4 inch plywood if it has some hair glued around a cut out hole in it. It's the genetic imprint in males to shoot their seed and run before the seed takes root and grows.

The rare man who stays to create a nest and make a family, is fighting against his DNA in order to stay with one woman.

Society puts as much pressure as it can on men to try and MAKE them be responsible for the life they seed. But we've all read many times of men living on food stamps and welfare who have fathered more than a dozen , all from different women. Perhaps these men are simply the reincarnation of our early cave-dwelling ancestors who were hunter-gatherers and would have been leaders of their tribe by fathering countless to fill a world empty of humans.

by david stardust... Saturday morning... September 3, 2016






stardust81937 87M
8340 posts
9/4/2016 2:37 am

    Quoting Discretewizard:
    I'm okay with the concept of reincarnation, but you do have a point about the creation of new souls.

    I figure there is either a 'new soul factory' in the great beyond, or that they undergo some form of mitosis and divide, or maybe the mommy soul and the daddy soul mate and have baby souls.

    Actually, the third option does make some sense. I'll have to think about that.
I'm pretty much at the head of the line to take THAT trip, Wizard... All of us will finally know for ourselves what The Grim Reaper is all about... It sort of makes a level playing field from my point of view. Affectionately, dave


stardust81937 87M
8340 posts
9/4/2016 2:33 am

    Quoting tommy609z:
    coming back as a st. bernard and carry the cask of booze around my neck. at least i will not go thirsty
There you go, Tommy! Coming back as something other than human would be an interesting trip! Thanks for the comment..


tommy609z 65M
576 posts
9/3/2016 5:48 pm

coming back as a st. bernard and carry the cask of booze around my neck. at least i will not go thirsty


stardust81937 87M
8340 posts
9/3/2016 12:43 pm

    Quoting justskin1:
    While I do believe that Reincarnation makes marginally more sense than the Heaven of Christians or Moslems, or the Valhalla of Odin & Freya, it still does not make much sense. When it comes to Reincarnation I have trouble with the fact that basicly one has no, or at most a very fuzzy, idea of what you were or did in prior lives. So, how are you to improve? And that is just for the style where you keep circling as a human. Then there are the ones where you come back as an insect or an animal.
    The only type of afterlife that has ever made any sense to me is one where the essential spark of life lives on but all trace of personality is gone. When you die all trace of what makes you an individual is gone. I cannot see any other logical outcome except where essentially you move to another plane of existence and continue the struggle. (Which is not a heaven at all.)

    I tend to view theology as mostly wishful thinking buttressed by rationalizations based on out of thin air assumptions. Yep, it is turtles all the way down.

    You always manage to make a person think or blindly react "That's not right!" I prefer to think.
If our species is able to survive long enough to figure out how to travel backward in time, it will come as a big shock to the religious when the first time traveler to come back after visiting the time of Jesus, tells the world what a huge fairy tale
THAT tale is...

Take care of yourself Justskin! I hope you meet THE woman who craves your special "attentions.." D...


stardust81937 87M
8340 posts
9/3/2016 12:35 pm

    Quoting  :

We humans seem to get a lot of natural feelings and activities all mixed up, and place those things in the religious jar... I tend to agree with you, HC..


stardust81937 87M
8340 posts
9/3/2016 12:31 pm

    Quoting freenez14u2:
    Some say/think we continue to come back until we live a righteous life then go to heaven. Who knows, not me. But I hope there's something more after this. Surely not perfect but I've lived my life with that in mind. Being honest and fair even if it's against my benifit. Kindness shown to those who far less make it a practice of their own etc.

    So when my time comes I'm happy to take my medicine for deeds done and shown. And if I'm just worm food it was nobody's loss but my own.
Attractive, hot shoes, Freenez! I tend to think my life is like an "on/off" light switch.
If I "sleep" throughout eternity after my time here is up, that's not too shabby of an ending ... Thank you for your comment...!!


stardust81937 87M
8340 posts
9/3/2016 12:24 pm

I tend to only want to see a film once, and usually only read a book once, so I think coming back and doing life for a second time doesn't appeal to me very much...


justskin1 72M
13175 posts
9/3/2016 6:03 am

While I do believe that Reincarnation makes marginally more sense than the Heaven of Christians or Moslems, or the Valhalla of Odin & Freya, it still does not make much sense. When it comes to Reincarnation I have trouble with the fact that basicly one has no, or at most a very fuzzy, idea of what you were or did in prior lives. So, how are you to improve? And that is just for the style where you keep circling as a human. Then there are the ones where you come back as an insect or an animal.
The only type of afterlife that has ever made any sense to me is one where the essential spark of life lives on but all trace of personality is gone. When you die all trace of what makes you an individual is gone. I cannot see any other logical outcome except where essentially you move to another plane of existence and continue the struggle. (Which is not a heaven at all.)

I tend to view theology as mostly wishful thinking buttressed by rationalizations based on out of thin air assumptions. Yep, it is turtles all the way down.

You always manage to make a person think or blindly react "That's not right!" I prefer to think.


If you see me in the real world, come say "Hi Justskin."

I always behave. Preferably not well.


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