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Florida and Pennsylvania?  

tickles4us 62M
1600 posts
11/6/2016 8:24 am

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11/6/2016 8:48 pm
Florida and Pennsylvania?

I think both will be turning blue on Tuesday!
Vive La Difference
BrownEyedBBW 55F  
8831 posts
11/6/2016 6:20 pm

 In 1980, Carter faced a number of setbacks which he couldn't shake. A struggling economy, inflation, increasing interest rates, a gasoline shortage and the Iran Hostage crisis. And the failed mission to rescue the hostages put him in a very deep hole.

I was a kid and I remember gas lines and having to wear damn sweaters all the time because fuel prices were so high. I was in Jr high when the hostages were being held and it really was a demoralizing time.,

But, when I talk to my liberal friends on the East coast, they don't seem to get why people like Trump or think they are dumb or racist, etc,etc. Since moving to this flyover state, I get why he appeals to people.

For a lot of folks it feels, heck it is almost as bad as it was back in '80. For example, in the past year, 2 manufacturers moved assembly plants to other countries and something like 600 people will be out of work by next summer. People can't send their kids to college unless they go pretty deep into debt. My seniors who are interviewing for jobs are getting a shock as they are figuring out how much they will make vs how much their school loans will be.

When I talk to people who say they're voting for Trump, they don't sound all that dissimilar from my parent's friends who voted for Reagan.

I think Clinton will win, but I'm not sure how overwhelming her margin of victory will be.


tickles4us replies on 11/6/2016 8:47 pm:
I'm of the opinion that NAFTA and free trade agreements were mishandled but I also know that the Republicans and corporations were the ones pushing for NAFTA the hardest. It got started, signing wise, during H.W. Bush's presidency. But globalization has been an ongoing matter for a long time and will continue even if Trump gets into office.

Free trade will balance the workers wages world wide.. eventually, which is not in the best interests of the United States citizens income wise if you work at a labor oriented job anyways. But it will allow company owners to make higher profits which don't seem to get passed on to the "lower or middle class." But if you have enough to invest in the stock market then you can maintain a better level of income, sort of... But hey think of it this way you're sacrificing for the betterment of the rest of the third world while creating a larger third world right here in the good old U.S. of A.

The poor get poorer as the rich get richer and the world becomes the supply house for the laborers that make the rich richer while the poor lose more and more rights. Soon they can't afford the health care they need to keep working and living a healthy life and die in poverty as the rich call another yet another body to fill the empty spot.

They tell you to turn to service industries to take up the slack from the lost manufacturing jobs while the cost to educate or train to these jobs gets higher and higher. More debt is incurred and cheaper labor is abundant because people are looking for jobs after their company has been bought out or moved it's operations overseas. So people are left with high debt and poor job prospects. As with any situation supply and demand will act to set prices be it for a product or a pay rate.

The Democratization of China is an expensive project. But it is a fact that Democracy works best as a movement from the inside then as an imposition from the outside.

What is fairer? Paying people what the market and supply and demand will allow an employer to get away with even if that means they have to have another job to make ends meet or paying a fair wage and benefits that means less profit for the company? Speaking of benefits... have you noticed the tendency of employers to hire part time employees and give them no benefits yet they also get lower wages then the full time employees? How does that work when you figure one of the reasons you get paid less is because they give you your health insurance? What is happening to employees whose companies are dropping health insurance... do they get commensurate pay raises so that they can get their own health insurance?

Have you really looked at why you are supporting the Republican party?

northshoretake2 50M  
1626 posts
11/6/2016 3:51 pm
    Quoting BrownEyedBBW:
    What put me off right away was his slogan "Make America Great Again", I think all Americans should be offended, this is still far and away the best country in the world.

    People seemed to like it when Reagan used it back in 1979.
That's irrefutable but that election was IMHO more like Barack Obama's 2008 victory than today's contest.

In 1980, Carter faced a number of setbacks which he couldn't shake. A struggling economy, inflation, increasing interest rates, a gasoline shortage and the Iran Hostage crisis. And the failed mission to rescue the hostages put him in a very deep hole.

Enter Ronald Reagan. He looked the part, was a master communicator and shared a vision for a stronger, better America. Like Obama, he was the "hope and change" candidate who didn't need to sling mud. The incumbent party had already disappointed the American people, so a positive, inspriring campaign was all The Gipper needed to crush President Carter at the polls.

Trump's slogan might be similar but, without the dismal conditions present in 1980 and 2008, I believe his message resonates with a much smaller portion of the electorate. We'll know soon enough.

$0.02
Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.


BrownEyedBBW 55F  
8831 posts
11/6/2016 1:24 pm

 What put me off right away was his slogan "Make America Great Again", I think all Americans should be offended, this is still far and away the best country in the world.

People seemed to like it when Reagan used it back in 1979.


tickles4us replies on 11/6/2016 6:01 pm:
If you have been paying attention I'm sure you also noticed Trump using the Republican scare tactics to try to heard the cattle to his side.

AlvinBooth 70M
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11/6/2016 12:18 pm
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Unfortunately .... people have already gotten hurt and property vandalized and destroyed.

AB
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tickles4us replies on 11/6/2016 5:58 pm:
Seems Trump should be taking responsibility for a good deal of that seeing as he was so quick to instigate violence and hatred during his speeches.

northshoretake2 50M  
1626 posts
11/6/2016 12:07 pm

 Honestly, news of a close contest favors the Clinton campaign or, at least, minimizes their complacency.

It seems Mr Trump actually believes in polls again. Funny how that works. When he's losing, they're "rigged;" but when he's gaining, he can't shut up about them.

Do his supporters even notice?
Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.


tickles4us replies on 11/6/2016 5:56 pm:
Typical of Trump and his followers, many of which seem to be blind.

spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
11/6/2016 10:40 am

 I hope so and Ohio, Iowa etc!


tickles4us replies on 11/6/2016 5:43 pm:
A clean sweep would be impressive, but I'm afraid it would swell Hillary's head to the point she would float away.

mc_justmc 63M

11/6/2016 8:56 am

 I hope so!


tickles4us replies on 11/6/2016 9:13 am:

tickles4us 62M
7262 posts
11/6/2016 8:24 am
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