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Massage_Man_00 42M
10813 posts
2/21/2009 2:45 pm
When Do.....

So when do you learn from your mistakes?

I'll admit it's taken me a few times to learn from mine in my life, but because of some of the things that I've seen and been through in my life, I have countless friends ask me on how to get through things and they look for advice on things they are going through.

The abusive boyfriend/husband,
Drugs, of the not so legal kind,
How to work on something,
How to spot lies,
etc, etc etc.....

And what's sad, I see the same mistakes made over and over. As I've said, I've made a few of those mistakes myself, as we all have. But you'd think that when someone turns to you to ask for your help to get something straightened out, that they might actually take heed to your advice.

Frankly I just feel like giving up on helping people. They won't listen, I wont advise



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rm_ShyUTGal 64F
11101 posts
2/21/2009 3:17 pm

awww now don't do that (give up helping people). They ARE listening you know, they just may not be ready to take your advise. And also they may be looking for advise that fits what they already know they're going to do. Help when and if you feel inspired to, and share your knowledge and great compassion that way. If you try to help EVERYONE who dumps their troubles on you, you'll burn out. What's that old song? You can't please everyone, so you better please yourself (first). And abusive relationships are hard to break out of, those persons (in them) are deluded and in denial a lot of times. Sounds like you need a vacation from the people who are leaning on you. Take a break. I think you're fabulous and I don't even really know you!


firegryphon 54F
5903 posts
2/21/2009 5:29 pm

My son said this of himself and i think it applies to us both.

"I'm a fuck-up..I fuck up alot, but never at the same thing twice.

The only thing I HAVE to do is eat, shit, and die. Everything else is a choice.


LustyTaurus 56M
21250 posts
2/21/2009 8:39 pm

some of it will stick, eventually...I get the same as you...people asking questions or help or advice.


rm_buttonboks 67F
1691 posts
2/22/2009 12:58 am

Sadly there are times we must learn through our mistakes. Good advice not withstanding. If it involves the heart even with the best of advice the mistakes need to be made. All you can do is be there when the time comes that a shoulder is needed,,,,,and no I told you so.

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72wantyou 113F

2/22/2009 8:49 am

Hun, you can't take their actions personally. Yes, they asked for your input on a given situation and you gave advice. That's where your responsibility ends. If people want change, it will happen. I think the trouble is that people don't know how to change their life for the better. Sometimes it is easier to complain rather than making the effort to change. That's how I was...until my mental health suffered so much from the lack of doing anything about it that I spoke up. Yes, my life was hell for a time....but I haven't been happier in the last few years. It's scary to create change, to cause disruption in one's life....but when the time is right....they will do it. It's just a matter of how badly they want it.


Massage_Man_00 42M
18009 posts
2/22/2009 11:53 am

    Quoting rm_ShyUTGal:
    awww now don't do that (give up helping people). They ARE listening you know, they just may not be ready to take your advise. And also they may be looking for advise that fits what they already know they're going to do. Help when and if you feel inspired to, and share your knowledge and great compassion that way. If you try to help EVERYONE who dumps their troubles on you, you'll burn out. What's that old song? You can't please everyone, so you better please yourself (first). And abusive relationships are hard to break out of, those persons (in them) are deluded and in denial a lot of times. Sounds like you need a vacation from the people who are leaning on you. Take a break. I think you're fabulous and I don't even really know you!
I've helped them get out of one controlling relationship and now right back into another I don't want to give up, but yes I think I need a lil vacation. All you have to do is ask and you can get to know me better


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Massage_Man_00 42M
18009 posts
2/22/2009 11:54 am

    Quoting  :

They need more then a nudge,.... they need a bitch slapping


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Massage_Man_00 42M
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2/22/2009 12:08 pm

    Quoting firegryphon:
    My son said this of himself and i think it applies to us both.

    "I'm a fuck-up..I fuck up alot, but never at the same thing twice.
Hi, I'm a Fuck up


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Massage_Man_00 42M
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2/22/2009 12:11 pm

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I know no ones knows this better then you bro. I want to try, but it's hard to just let it go


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Massage_Man_00 42M
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2/22/2009 12:14 pm

    Quoting LustyTaurus:
    some of it will stick, eventually...I get the same as you...people asking questions or help or advice.
Well see, it did stick, after a year of telling her to get out of the first one, and now she's going back into another after telling me thank you for getting her out of the first one


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Massage_Man_00 42M
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2/22/2009 12:20 pm

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Stupid Students


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Massage_Man_00 42M
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2/22/2009 12:22 pm

    Quoting rm_buttonboks:
    Sadly there are times we must learn through our mistakes. Good advice not withstanding. If it involves the heart even with the best of advice the mistakes need to be made. All you can do is be there when the time comes that a shoulder is needed,,,,,and no I told you so.
Sorry, but after all the shit I've dealt with, ..... a I told you so,.... is in order. I don't baby anything. I give it straight forward and to the point


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Massage_Man_00 42M
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2/22/2009 12:24 pm

    Quoting  :

Soy is always right..... Didn't you know that? But why turn to someone just to know they care, when you can be with someone who does care?


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Massage_Man_00 42M
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2/22/2009 12:36 pm

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But I don't wanna


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Massage_Man_00 42M
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2/22/2009 12:37 pm

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But how about those who turn it around, then go back?


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Massage_Man_00 42M
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2/22/2009 12:40 pm

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true, but will they ever learn?


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Massage_Man_00 42M
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2/22/2009 12:43 pm

    Quoting 72wantyou:
    Hun, you can't take their actions personally. Yes, they asked for your input on a given situation and you gave advice. That's where your responsibility ends. If people want change, it will happen. I think the trouble is that people don't know how to change their life for the better. Sometimes it is easier to complain rather than making the effort to change. That's how I was...until my mental health suffered so much from the lack of doing anything about it that I spoke up. Yes, my life was hell for a time....but I haven't been happier in the last few years. It's scary to create change, to cause disruption in one's life....but when the time is right....they will do it. It's just a matter of how badly they want it.
I think 2 years of it is more then enough


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bad_assed_witch 109F
33758 posts
2/22/2009 1:31 pm

I tend to avoid those kinds of people

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72wantyou 113F

2/22/2009 4:08 pm

Oh goodness! 2 years? I would've been done after 2 months.... You need to worry about your own life and not let others 'suck you in'.... I'd gladly suck you in--in other ways....


Massage_Man_00 42M
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2/22/2009 4:23 pm

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Yes, you're right Oh wise one, please let me bow before your greatness


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Massage_Man_00 42M
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2/22/2009 4:23 pm

I do too..... but they keep finding me


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Massage_Man_00 42M
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2/22/2009 7:17 pm

    Quoting 72wantyou:
    Oh goodness! 2 years? I would've been done after 2 months.... You need to worry about your own life and not let others 'suck you in'.... I'd gladly suck you in--in other ways....
well I'm ready for you to suck me in


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